Around the horn is the worst show ESPN has, arguably, ever come out with. In the beginning, with Max Kellerman as host, all he did was try to control the entire show and not let the panelists actually debate. Looking back on the show with Max, he might have been doing the right thing. There's not an intelligent person on the panel...ever. Tim Cowlishaw is the only one who can every once in a while make a point that's based on some actual facts and not homerism. I'm pretty sure Woody Paige is actually crazy because there's no way any sane person could say and believe the pathetic dribble the comes out of his mouth everyday. Jay Marriotti is the same way, except with waxed eyebrows, something I happened to notice about a year ago and really bothers me. Tony Reali, who has replaced Max as the host, is better suited for his role as "stat boy" on PTI where he doesn't have a significant part on the show. He thinks he's all knowing but really has a very limited knowledge of sports. Although Max Kellerman was a complete asshole as host, he wouldn't even let the idiot panelists talk, a smart move. God I hate this show.